To My Dear MYDDers

I look around at this site, and I haven't seen enough "McCain would be a terrible President because..." diarys today.
OK, you had your day to grieve, now it is time to get back to work at what you all do best.
We have 10 Republican held senate seats that need to be brought over to the Democratic column, dozen of Republican held congressional districts where Democrats can win, several races for state Governor that we can win for Democratic challengers, and too many state legislatures that are in need of a progressive injection of new political blood.
We are not going to let the Republicans creep back in because we are too wrapped up and blinded by our self pity.
We got a big fight in front of us, but we can win this (by a huge margin), and we will.  


Poll
Reasons Why McCain Would Be a Terrible Presudent
He has already promised more Scalia and Roberts like Supreme Court Justices
He thinks the troops levels in Iraq are below pre-surge levels
He wants to keep US servicemen in Iraq for a hundred years
He doesn't think our servicemen deserve a college education
He would effectively be a Third Bush Term
He was for a path to citizenship before he was against it
He sang "Bomb Iran" and thought he was cute
Other, answer given below

Votes: 30
Results : Vote Link : Polls

Display:


Re: To My Dear MYDDers (2.00 / 11)

Give it time.  It's not like he's a moving target or anything.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 12:55:25 AM EST

Re: To My Dear MYDDers (2.00 / 2)

LOL!  I'd rec if I could.  


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:06:20 AM EST
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Re: To My Dear MYDDers (none / 0)

Well done Shaun!


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:09:29 AM EST
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Frankly .... (2.00 / 5)

it's early.

Instead of working to point out all of McCain's  negatives, it's time now to try to heal the divide.  For me, the first step in that is to regain Hillary's rightful place among the blogosphere as a good and loyal Democrat who has done great things for America.

If folks won't accept that, then they are not willing to heal the divide and work together to defeat McCain.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:02:19 AM EST

I would rather just accept (none / 0)

The divide as healed.


My thoughts on McCain: I have no desire to let that idiot fulfill his desire to "Bomb Iran"
by Otaku Saru on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:05:53 AM EST
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Re: I would rather just accept (2.00 / 1)

Well you would be seriously wrong there.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:14:12 PM EST
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Not so much so (none / 0)

Instead of working to point out all of McCain's negatives, it's time now to try to heal the divide.
I don't think there's nearly the divide you think there is. As I posted earlier, I think Monday needs to be clean slate day: whatever mean, stupid, immature, nasty things we've said to one another, I just don't care. Come Monday, we work on defeating McCain. I don't feel a need to waste three weeks on blogger group therapy, helping people process their issues with this election. Honestly, right now, I'm in the mood to kick GOP ass.
For me, the first step in that is to regain Hillary's rightful place among the blogosphere as a good and loyal Democrat who has done great things for America.
This isn't about Clinton, and trying to *make* it about Clinton doesn't solve anything.
If folks won't accept that, then they are not willing to heal the divide and work together to defeat McCain.
It may be just me, but this is where I begin to suspect you're a more subtle form of troll. But I really don't care about that either.
I'm only a click away
by juliewolf on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 07:21:45 AM EST
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Re: Not so much so (2.00 / 1)

I think you're wrong.  There is a divide, and I think it will take longer than your Monday deadline to "get over it".

If you want to go after him, fine we'll catch up w/ ya later on down the road.  Right now, I'm more worried about getting down-ticket races shored up for the next two months in order to be able kick some GOP ass.  That is the only way Obama will be able to really win in November.

It's ground up, not top-down that wins elections and something that Hillary's team forgot, despite the plea's from the likes of Ickes and others.

Right now I'm busy getting ready for my State Convention, and sizing up cadidates to challenge the Senate seat and State House/Senate races.  I have no interest in "healing" w/ Obama at the moment.  And those looking to force it will only delay the process.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:19:48 PM EST
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Well, MS Wolf ..... (none / 0)

because I don't join the jubilant throng, I am now a 'suspected subtle form of troll'.

Wow.  

No, I'm no troll, I do live on a river near a bridge, but not under it, thank you very much.

I never made it 'about' Clinton.  But if you want to ignore that her supporters need to have her placed back squarely in the high regard that she deserves and they demand, you will be making a mistake.  That's one of the things that drives me mad about Obama supporters in general, anything that is not resounding praise of their chosen candidate is somehow not appropriate.  To 18 million Democratic primary voters, this IS appropriate, and required.

Keep on the good fight, continue to diss her and her supporters at every chance you get.  It doesn't help.  No one wants you to hold our hand or give us 'three weeks of blogger therapy'  (are you qualified for that?).  You do, however have to start to show a little respect.  Ignore that, and the party (which I am no longer part of, Dean's fault, I am now NPA) will not heal.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:57:33 PM EST
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Re: Well, MS Wolf ..... (none / 0)

The reason I suspect you're a troll is, actually, because of this line:

...the first step in that is to regain Hillary's rightful place among the blogosphere as a good and loyal Democrat who has done great things for America.

If folks won't accept that, then they are not willing to heal the divide and work together to defeat McCain.

It's conditional crap like this that I think is useless and does nothing but treat people who differ  from your point of view as though they're idiots.


I'm only a click away
by juliewolf on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 04:39:07 PM EST
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Re: Well, MS Wolf ..... (none / 0)

You know, that's my opinion, and I am entitled to it.

Frankly,my dear, I don't give a damn about your 'suspicions', because I know my motives and my record of support for Democratic candidates.  Your 'opinion' of me or your 'suspicions' are about as relevant to me as the toilet problems on the space shuttle were before they were fixed.

Now, 18 million .... COUNT  THEM, 18 MILLION voters were for Hillary.  Ignore their feelings if you think that's wise.  Frankly I think that those who are not willing to relent and  restore Hillary to her rightfully respected status in the party  are much more of a problem for 'unity' than folks like me who are labeled a 'troll' because you don't like my message.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 05:23:22 PM EST
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Re: Well, MS Wolf ..... (none / 0)

Now, 18 million .... COUNT THEM, 18 MILLION voters were for Hillary.
Sort of. 18 Million had a preference of Clinton over Obama, but my guess is that only a very small number of those prefer McCain to Obama and that most of them view Obama and Clinton as both very good candidates with a belief that one's more electable than the other. I don't think your message is meaningful. I don't think Clinton needs to vindicate herself or to prove anything to anyone. She ran a strong campaign that, ultimately, was unsuccessful. That's fine. If you, however, treat Clinton's image in the blogosphere as a top priority at this point, I don't think you've got anything particularly interesting or relevant to contribute.
I'm only a click away
by juliewolf on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 06:03:09 PM EST
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Re: Well, MS Wolf ..... (none / 0)

18 million voters  (mostly Democrats at that) supported Hillary over Obama,  He won with a larger count by a slim margin given him by independents.

No where did I say that Hillary's voters would choose McCain.  Most will not.  Some may choose to leave the spot blank, that is their right to do so.  No, Hillary has nothing to prove at this point.  However, her supporters deserve more than having our noses rubbed in every pile of manure some of the blogosphere folks can find or invent.  Ignore that if you think it's helpful

Well, since you think I don't have anything interesting or relevant to contribute, please by all means, accept my cordial invitation to eternally skip my commentary and keep your oh so wise and learned opinions to yourself.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:12:36 PM EST
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Re: To My Dear MYDDers (2.00 / 2)

I'm giddy to think all these people I've had fervent disagreement with are actually on my side.  We have a chance to make republican neoconservatism as relavent as libertarianism.  

Onward and upward.


by Adept2u on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:02:27 AM EST

There were diaries (2.00 / 3)

about that, I wrote one on the push back against Lieberman and how McCain hates kids (with sourcing from Sean Reagan of TheBackForty for that.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:10:04 AM EST

Re: To My Dear MYDDers (2.00 / 3)

Anther reason I left off
He turned down Ellen's gracious offer to walk her down the aisle.

I'm as giddy as a teenage boy with his first condom. Finally I can crack jokes on this site that most people will laugh at.


My thoughts on McCain: I have no desire to let that idiot fulfill his desire to "Bomb Iran"
by Otaku Saru on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:11:54 AM EST

Re: To My Dear MYDDers (2.00 / 2)

thats not really funny.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:55:01 AM EST
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Agreed. Not funny at all. n/t (2.00 / 1)


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:56:08 AM EST
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I'm sorry, I wasn't (none / 0)

trying to be.
I was serious about the additional reason that McCain would be a terrible president.
I was serious about the giddiness comment, which was suppose to be a reply to another users comment.
Can we not all have fun trashing McCain together?
My thoughts on McCain: I have no desire to let that idiot fulfill his desire to "Bomb Iran"
by Otaku Saru on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:27:31 AM EST
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Re: To My Dear MYDDers (none / 0)

Yeah I agree with my fellow commenters. I agree we are DYING to take him on but let's give everybody the week. Hillary will do the right thing on Saturday and then next week we can start brainstorming and poopstirring all together to get the White House back !


by Benjaminomeara on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:20:48 AM EST

Why are we waiting for Hillary? (none / 0)

I'm ready to start trashing McCain now.


My thoughts on McCain: I have no desire to let that idiot fulfill his desire to "Bomb Iran"
by Otaku Saru on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:29:16 AM EST
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Re: Why are we waiting for Hillary? (none / 0)

You'll have a full 5 months, don't worry.


by ProgressiveDL on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 07:15:21 AM EST
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Re: Why are we waiting for Hillary? (none / 0)

So what is stopping you?

go ahead, start a diary on it.


by colebiancardi on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 12:10:20 PM EST
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Re: Why are we waiting for Hillary? (none / 0)

Go ahead and start trashing.  Get involved in your local races and State races.  Trash him there, along with their opponents.

Otherwise, like a teenage boy w/ his first condom, you're just gonna be waiting around impatiently w/ the thing making a ring in your wallet and still have no hope in using it for a while, and by then it may be no good! ;)

I'm sure your local guys/gals can use some of that excess energy right now.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:23:18 PM EST
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Beware this GOP troll (none / 0)

"OK, you had your day to grieve, now it is time to get back to work at what you all do best."

I encourage both Clinton and Obama supporters to recognize that the diarist is most likely a paid GOP operative.  No Democrat would write anything so searingly devoid of empathy.  

We need to be wary of GOP diarists and posters pretending to be supporters of either candidate attempting to foment disunity.  Before the diary ended, the majority of trolls were impersonating Clinton supporters.  Now that the primary is over, they will be imitating Obama supporters and using inhumane thoughts like the above to scare people away from voting for Obama.  


Lifelong Democrat, civil rights advocate, former volunteer for Dem candidates. Now Independent.
by BPK80 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 04:49:39 AM EST

To The Diarist (none / 0)

Every time I see your name, I see your posting:

"I hate Hillary Clinton".

Most women have long memories.


by susie on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:08:41 PM EST


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